diff --git a/src/data/field.cpp b/src/data/field.cpp
index a01ac6ae..546e75ac 100644
--- a/src/data/field.cpp
+++ b/src/data/field.cpp
@@ -189,15 +189,6 @@ int Style::update(Context& ctx) {
   return changed;
 }
 
-bool Style::isVisible() const {
-  return visible
-      &&     (width())  > 0      
-      && fabs(left())   < 100000
-      && fabs(right())  < 100000
-      &&     (height()) > 0      
-      && fabs(top())    < 100000
-      && fabs(bottom()) < 100000;
-}
 bool Style::hasSize() const {
   int h = is_setw(width)  + is_set(left) + is_set(right);
   int v = is_setw(height) + is_set(top)  + is_set(bottom);
diff --git a/src/data/field.hpp b/src/data/field.hpp
index 79e9485b..191d0f75 100644
--- a/src/data/field.hpp
+++ b/src/data/field.hpp
@@ -118,15 +118,12 @@ public:
   } automatic_side : 8;  ///< Which of (left, width,  right) and (top,  height, bottom) is determined automatically?
   bool content_dependent;  ///< Does this style depend on content properties?
   
-  inline RealPoint getPos()  const { return RealPoint(left, top               ); }
-  inline RealSize  getSize() const { return RealSize (           width, height); }
-  inline RealRect  getExternalRect() const { return RealRect (left, top, width, height); }
-  inline RealRect  getInternalRect() const { return RealRect(0, 0, width, height); }
+  inline RealPoint getPos()  const { return RealPoint(left, top); }
+  inline RealSize  getSize() const { return RealSize(width, height); }
+  inline RealRect  getExternalRect() const { return RealRect(left, top, width, height); }
   
   /// Does this style have a non-zero size (or is it scripted)?
   bool hasSize() const;
-  /// Is this style visible, and does it have a sane size 
-  bool isVisible() const;
   
   /// Get a copy of this style
   virtual StyleP clone() const = 0;
diff --git a/src/gui/control/card_editor.cpp b/src/gui/control/card_editor.cpp
index faef93aa..b40876da 100644
--- a/src/gui/control/card_editor.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/control/card_editor.cpp
@@ -150,7 +150,7 @@ struct CompareTabOrder {
 };
 
 bool is_enabled(ValueViewerP const& v) {
-  return v->getField()->editable && v->getStyle()->isVisible();
+  return v->getField()->editable && v->isVisible();
 }
 
 bool DataEditor::selectWithTab(vector<ValueViewerP>::iterator const& it) {
@@ -210,7 +210,7 @@ bool DataEditor::search(Iterator it, Iterator end, FindInfo& find, bool from_sta
   for (;it != end; ++it) {
     ValueViewer* viewer = *it;
     if (viewer == current_viewer) include = true;
-    if (include && viewer->getField()->editable && viewer->getStyle()->isVisible()) {
+    if (include && viewer->getField()->editable && viewer->isVisible()) {
       ValueEditor* editor = viewer->getEditor();
       if (editor) {
         if (editor && editor->search(find, from_start || viewer != current_viewer)) {
diff --git a/src/gui/control/card_viewer.cpp b/src/gui/control/card_viewer.cpp
index 013626a4..bf7d17d4 100644
--- a/src/gui/control/card_viewer.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/control/card_viewer.cpp
@@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ void CardViewer::redraw(const ValueViewer& v) {
   // causing the two viewers to continously refresh.
   if (drawing_card()) return;
   up_to_date = false;
-  RefreshRect(getRotation().trRectToBB(v.boundingBox()), false);
+  RefreshRect(getRotation().trRectToBB(v.boundingBoxBorder()), false);
 }
 
 void CardViewer::onChange() {
@@ -112,7 +112,7 @@ bool CardViewer::shouldDraw(const ValueViewer& v) const {
 //  int dx = GetScrollPos(wxHORIZONTAL), dy = GetScrollPos(wxVERTICAL);
 //  wxRegion clip = GetUpdateRegion();
 //  clip.Offset(dx, dy);
-  return GetUpdateRegion().Contains(getRotation().trRectToBB(v.boundingBox().toRect()).toRect()) != wxOutRegion;
+  return GetUpdateRegion().Contains(getRotation().trRectToBB(v.boundingBoxBorder().toRect()).toRect()) != wxOutRegion;
 }
 
 // helper class for overdrawDC()
diff --git a/src/gui/control/native_look_editor.cpp b/src/gui/control/native_look_editor.cpp
index aeba7047..2cba8461 100644
--- a/src/gui/control/native_look_editor.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/control/native_look_editor.cpp
@@ -35,14 +35,13 @@ void NativeLookEditor::drawViewer(RotatedDC& dc, ValueViewer& v) {
   ValueEditor* e = v.getEditor();
   if (!e || e->drawLabel()) {
     // draw control border and box
-    Style& s = *v.getStyle();
-    draw_control_box(this, dc.getDC(), dc.trRectToBB(s.getInternalRect().grow(1)), current_editor == e, e != nullptr);
+    draw_control_box(this, dc.getDC(), dc.getExternalRect().grow(1), current_editor == e, e != nullptr);
     // draw label
     dc.SetFont(*wxNORMAL_FONT);
     dc.SetTextForeground(wxSystemSettings::GetColour(wxSYS_COLOUR_BTNTEXT));
     // TODO : tr using stylesheet or using game?
-    dc.DrawText(tr(getStylePackage(), s.fieldP->caption, identity),
-          RealPoint(margin_left - s.left, 1));
+    dc.DrawText(tr(getStylePackage(), v.getField()->caption, identity),
+          RealPoint(margin_left - v.bounding_box.x, 1));
   }
   // draw viewer
   v.draw(dc);
@@ -76,15 +75,15 @@ void NativeLookEditor::resizeViewers() {
     StyleP s = v->getStyle();
     ValueEditor* e = v->getEditor();
     if (!e || e->drawLabel()) {
-      s->left = margin + label_width;
+      v->bounding_box.x = margin + label_width;
     } else {
-      s->left = margin;
+      v->bounding_box.x = margin;
     }
-    s->top  = y;
-    s->width  = w - s->left - margin;
-    s->height = default_height;
+    v->bounding_box.y  = y;
+    v->bounding_box.width  = w - v->bounding_box.x - margin;
+    v->bounding_box.height = s->height() == 0 ? default_height : s->height;
     if (e) e->determineSize();
-    y += s->height + vspace;
+    y += v->bounding_box.height + vspace;
   }
   y = y - vspace + margin;
   SetVirtualSize(w, (int)y);
@@ -93,17 +92,6 @@ void NativeLookEditor::resizeViewers() {
   }
   if (y >= h) {
     // Doesn't fit vertically, add scrollbar and resize
-    /*
-    y = margin;
-    FOR_EACH(v, viewers) {
-      StyleP s = v->getStyle();
-      ValueEditor* e = v->getEditor();
-      s->top  = y;
-      s->width = s->width - wxSystemSettings::GetMetric(wxSYS_VSCROLL_X, this);
-      if (e) e->determineSize();
-      y += s->height + vspace;
-    }
-    */
     // create scrollbar
   }
 }
diff --git a/src/gui/control/text_ctrl.cpp b/src/gui/control/text_ctrl.cpp
index 05679656..66914faf 100644
--- a/src/gui/control/text_ctrl.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/control/text_ctrl.cpp
@@ -55,9 +55,9 @@ TextFieldP TextCtrl::getFieldP() {
 }
 void TextCtrl::updateSize() {
   wxSize cs = GetClientSize();
-  Style& style = getStyle();
-  style.width  = cs.GetWidth()  - 2;
-  style.height = cs.GetHeight() - 2;
+  ValueViewer& viewer = *viewers.front();
+  viewer.bounding_box.width  = cs.GetWidth()  - 2;
+  viewer.bounding_box.height = cs.GetHeight() - 2;
   viewers.front()->getEditor()->determineSize(true);
 }
 
@@ -76,9 +76,9 @@ void TextCtrl::onChangeSet() {
   // initialize
   if (viewers.empty()) {
     // create a field, style and value
-    TextFieldP field(new TextField);
-    TextStyleP style(new TextStyle(field));
-    TextValueP value(new FakeTextValue(field, nullptr, false, false));
+    TextFieldP field = make_intrusive<TextField>();
+    TextStyleP style = make_intrusive<TextStyle>(field);
+    TextValueP value = make_intrusive<FakeTextValue>(field, nullptr, false, false);
     // set stuff
     field->index = 0;
     field->multi_line = multi_line;
diff --git a/src/gui/drop_down_list.cpp b/src/gui/drop_down_list.cpp
index e48f9a05..e614c5bc 100644
--- a/src/gui/drop_down_list.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/drop_down_list.cpp
@@ -287,7 +287,7 @@ void DropDownList::redrawArrowOnParent() {
       shared_ptr<RotatedDC> dcP = editor.overdrawDC();
       RotatedDC& dc = *dcP;
       Rotater r(dc, viewer->getRotation());
-      draw_drop_down_arrow(&editor, dc.getDC(), dc.trRectToBB(dc.getInternalRect().grow(1)), IsShown());
+      draw_drop_down_arrow(&editor, dc.getDC(), dc.getExternalRect().grow(1), IsShown());
     }
   }
 }
diff --git a/src/gui/value/choice.cpp b/src/gui/value/choice.cpp
index db1be54d..1ed5cd0e 100644
--- a/src/gui/value/choice.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/value/choice.cpp
@@ -275,11 +275,11 @@ void ChoiceValueEditor::onLoseFocus() {
 void ChoiceValueEditor::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
   ChoiceValueViewer::draw(dc);
   if (nativeLook()) {
-    draw_drop_down_arrow(&editor(), dc.getDC(), dc.trRectToBB(style().getInternalRect().grow(1)), drop_down->IsShown());
+    draw_drop_down_arrow(&editor(), dc.getDC(), dc.getExternalRect().grow(1), drop_down->IsShown());
   }
 }
 void ChoiceValueEditor::determineSize(bool) {
-  style().height = max(style().height(), 16.);
+  bounding_box.height = max(bounding_box.height, 16.);
 }
 
 void ChoiceValueEditor::change(const Defaultable<String>& c) {
diff --git a/src/gui/value/color.cpp b/src/gui/value/color.cpp
index e6468871..c43ce417 100644
--- a/src/gui/value/color.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/value/color.cpp
@@ -148,7 +148,7 @@ void ColorValueEditor::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
   }
 }
 void ColorValueEditor::determineSize(bool) {
-  style().height = 20;
+  bounding_box.height = 20;
 }
 
 void ColorValueEditor::change(const Defaultable<Color>& c) {
diff --git a/src/gui/value/information.cpp b/src/gui/value/information.cpp
index 7c41a803..f6e71bd1 100644
--- a/src/gui/value/information.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/value/information.cpp
@@ -14,5 +14,5 @@
 IMPLEMENT_VALUE_EDITOR(Info) {}
 
 void InfoValueEditor::determineSize(bool) {
-  style().height = 26;
+  bounding_box.height = 26;
 }
diff --git a/src/gui/value/multiple_choice.cpp b/src/gui/value/multiple_choice.cpp
index 3755c891..8bd6671a 100644
--- a/src/gui/value/multiple_choice.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/value/multiple_choice.cpp
@@ -105,7 +105,7 @@ void MultipleChoiceValueEditor::determineSize(bool force_fit) {
   item_height = 18;
   // height depends on number of items and item height
   int item_count = field().choices->lastId();
-  style().height = item_count * item_height;
+  bounding_box.height = item_count * item_height;
 }
 
 bool MultipleChoiceValueEditor::onLeftDown(const RealPoint& pos, wxMouseEvent& ev) {
diff --git a/src/gui/value/package_choice.cpp b/src/gui/value/package_choice.cpp
index 7214b414..7b016a34 100644
--- a/src/gui/value/package_choice.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/value/package_choice.cpp
@@ -101,11 +101,11 @@ void PackageChoiceValueEditor::onLoseFocus() {
 void PackageChoiceValueEditor::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
   PackageChoiceValueViewer::draw(dc);
   if (nativeLook()) {
-    draw_drop_down_arrow(&editor(), dc.getDC(), dc.trRectToBB(style().getInternalRect().grow(1)), drop_down && drop_down->IsShown());
+    draw_drop_down_arrow(&editor(), dc.getDC(), dc.getExternalRect().grow(1), drop_down && drop_down->IsShown());
   }
 }
 void PackageChoiceValueEditor::determineSize(bool) {
-  style().height = max(style().height(), 16.);
+  bounding_box.height = max(bounding_box.height, 16.);
 }
 
 void PackageChoiceValueEditor::change(const String& c) {
diff --git a/src/gui/value/symbol.cpp b/src/gui/value/symbol.cpp
index 1d070ab8..84edca36 100644
--- a/src/gui/value/symbol.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/value/symbol.cpp
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ void SymbolValueEditor::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
     dc.SetFont(wxFont(10,wxFONTFAMILY_SWISS,wxFONTSTYLE_NORMAL,wxFONTWEIGHT_NORMAL));
     dc.SetTextForeground(*wxBLACK);
     RealSize text_size = dc.GetTextExtent(_("double click to edit symbol"));
-    dc.DrawText(_("double click to edit symbol"), align_in_rect(ALIGN_MIDDLE_CENTER, text_size, style().getInternalRect()));
+    dc.DrawText(_("double click to edit symbol"), align_in_rect(ALIGN_MIDDLE_CENTER, text_size, dc.getInternalRect()));
   }
   if (nativeLook()) {
     // draw editor buttons
@@ -38,9 +38,9 @@ void SymbolValueEditor::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
 }
 void SymbolValueEditor::drawButton(RotatedDC& dc, int button, const String& text) {
   bool down = button == button_down;
-  double height = style().height;
-  double width  = style().height + 2;
-  double x = style().width - width - (width + 1) * button;
+  double height = bounding_box.height;
+  double width  = bounding_box.height + 2;
+  double x = bounding_box.width - width - (width + 1) * button;
   double y = 0;
   // draw button
   draw_button(&editor(), dc.getDC(), dc.trRectToBB(RealRect(x,y,width,height)), false, down, true);
@@ -54,8 +54,8 @@ void SymbolValueEditor::drawButton(RotatedDC& dc, int button, const String& text
 }
 
 int SymbolValueEditor::findButton(const RealPoint& pos) {
-  if (pos.y < 0 || pos.y >= style().height) return -1;
-  int button = (int)floor( (style().width - pos.x) / (style().height + 3) );
+  if (pos.y < 0 || pos.y >= bounding_box.height) return -1;
+  int button = (int)floor( (bounding_box.width - pos.x) / (bounding_box.height + 3) );
   if (button >= 0 && button <= 1) return button;
   return -1;
 }
@@ -107,7 +107,8 @@ bool SymbolValueEditor::onLeftDClick(const RealPoint& pos, wxMouseEvent&) {
 }
 
 void SymbolValueEditor::determineSize(bool) {
-  style().height = 50;
+  if (style().height == 0) style().height = 50;
+  bounding_box.height = 50;
 }
 
 
diff --git a/src/gui/value/text.cpp b/src/gui/value/text.cpp
index 72a92c5a..d97e6bb8 100644
--- a/src/gui/value/text.cpp
+++ b/src/gui/value/text.cpp
@@ -627,7 +627,7 @@ wxMenu* TextValueEditor::getMenu(int type) const {
 void TextValueEditor::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
   if (nativeLook()) {
     // clip the dc to the region of this control
-    dc.SetClippingRegion(style().getInternalRect());
+    dc.SetClippingRegion(dc.getInternalRect());
   }
   // update scrollbar
   prepareDrawScrollbar(dc);
@@ -663,7 +663,7 @@ void TextValueEditor::redrawSelection(size_t old_selection_start_i, size_t old_s
     Rotater r(dc, getRotation());
     if (nativeLook()) {
       // clip the dc to the region of this control
-      dc.SetClippingRegion(style().getInternalRect());
+      dc.SetClippingRegion(dc.getInternalRect());
     }
     // clear old selection by drawing it again
     if (!old_drop_down_shown) {
@@ -727,9 +727,8 @@ bool TextValueEditor::containsPoint(const RealPoint& pos) const {
   if (word_lists.empty()) return false;
   return (bool) findWordList(pos);
 }
-RealRect TextValueEditor::boundingBox() const {
-  if (word_lists.empty()) return ValueViewer::boundingBox();
-  RealRect r = style().getInternalRect().grow(1);
+RealRect TextValueEditor::boundingBoxBorder() const {
+  RealRect r = ValueViewer::boundingBoxBorder();
   FOR_EACH_CONST(wl, word_lists) {
     r.width = max(r.width, wl->rect.right() + 9);
   }
@@ -1255,14 +1254,16 @@ void TextValueEditor::determineSize(bool force_fit) {
     // muliline, determine scrollbar size
     Rotation rot = parent.getRotation();
     Rotater r(rot, getRotation());
-    if (!force_fit) style().height = 100;
+    if (!force_fit) {
+      style().height = bounding_box.height = 100;
+    }
     int sbw = wxSystemSettings::GetMetric(wxSYS_VSCROLL_X);
     RealPoint pos = rot.tr(RealPoint(0,0));
     scrollbar->SetSize(
-      (int)(pos.x + rot.trX(style().width) + 1 - sbw),
+      (int)(pos.x + rot.trX(bounding_box.width) + 1 - sbw),
       (int)pos.y - 1,
       (int)sbw,
-      (int)rot.trY(style().height) + 2);
+      (int)rot.trY(bounding_box.height) + 2);
     v.reset(true);
   } else {
     // Height depends on font
@@ -1272,6 +1273,7 @@ void TextValueEditor::determineSize(bool force_fit) {
     dc.SetFont(style().font.toWxFont(1.0));
     style().height = dc.GetCharHeight() + 2 + style().padding_top + style().padding_bottom;
   }
+  bounding_box.height = style().height;
 }
 
 void TextValueEditor::onShow(bool showing) {
diff --git a/src/gui/value/text.hpp b/src/gui/value/text.hpp
index 784ed1cc..aaf27169 100644
--- a/src/gui/value/text.hpp
+++ b/src/gui/value/text.hpp
@@ -92,7 +92,7 @@ public:
   wxCursor cursor(const RealPoint& pos) const override;
   void determineSize(bool force_fit = false) override;
   bool containsPoint(const RealPoint& p) const override;
-  RealRect boundingBox() const override;
+  RealRect boundingBoxBorder() const override;
   void onShow(bool) override;
   void draw(RotatedDC&) override;
   
diff --git a/src/render/card/viewer.cpp b/src/render/card/viewer.cpp
index eb6ff655..6c3babb1 100644
--- a/src/render/card/viewer.cpp
+++ b/src/render/card/viewer.cpp
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ void DataViewer::draw(RotatedDC& dc, const Color& background) {
   // prepare viewers
   bool changed_content_properties = false;
   FOR_EACH(v, viewers) { // draw low z index fields first
-    if (v->getStyle()->isVisible()) {
+    if (v->isVisible()) {
       Rotater r(dc, v->getRotation());
       try {
         if (v->prepare(dc)) {
@@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ void DataViewer::draw(RotatedDC& dc, const Color& background) {
   }
   // draw viewers
   FOR_EACH(v, viewers) { // draw low z index fields first
-    if (v->getStyle()->isVisible()) {// visible
+    if (v->isVisible()) {// visible
       Rotater r(dc, v->getRotation());
       try {
         drawViewer(dc, *v);
diff --git a/src/render/text/viewer.cpp b/src/render/text/viewer.cpp
index 9171dda9..cc1bba5c 100644
--- a/src/render/text/viewer.cpp
+++ b/src/render/text/viewer.cpp
@@ -546,7 +546,7 @@ void TextViewer::prepareLinesTryScales(RotatedDC& dc, const String& text, const
 // Try to fit a blank line in the masked image, move down until it fits
 RealSize TextViewer::fitLineWidth(Line& line, RotatedDC& dc, const TextStyle& style) const {
   RealSize line_size(line.margin_left + lineLeft(dc, style, line.top), 0);
-  while (line.top < style.height && line_size.width + 1 >= style.width - style.padding_right - line.margin_right) {
+  while (line.top < dc.getHeight() && line_size.width + 1 >= dc.getWidth() - style.padding_right - line.margin_right) {
     // nothing fits on this line, move down one pixel
     line.top += 1;
     line_size.width = line.margin_left + lineLeft(dc, style, line.top);
diff --git a/src/render/value/color.cpp b/src/render/value/color.cpp
index 21d08554..83eaa060 100644
--- a/src/render/value/color.cpp
+++ b/src/render/value/color.cpp
@@ -50,7 +50,7 @@ void ColorValueViewer::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
             style().top_width  < style().height && style().bottom_width < style().height;
       if (clip) {
         // clip away the inside of the rectangle
-        wxRegion r = dc.trRectToRegion(style().getInternalRect());
+        wxRegion r = dc.trRectToRegion(dc.getInternalRect());
         r.Subtract(dc.trRectToRegion(RealRect(
           style().left_width,
           style().top_width,
@@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ void ColorValueViewer::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
         )));
         dc.getDC().SetClippingRegion(r);
       }
-      dc.DrawRoundedRectangle(style().getInternalRect(), style().radius);
+      dc.DrawRoundedRectangle(dc.getInternalRect(), style().radius);
       if (clip) dc.getDC().DestroyClippingRegion();
     }
     drawFieldBorder(dc);
@@ -69,15 +69,15 @@ void ColorValueViewer::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
 bool ColorValueViewer::containsPoint(const RealPoint& p) const {
   // check against mask
   const AlphaMask& alpha_mask = getMask();
-  if (alpha_mask.isLoaded()) {
+  if (alpha_mask.isLoaded() || nativeLook()) {
     // check against mask
-    return alpha_mask.isOpaque(p, style().getSize());
+    return alpha_mask.isOpaque(p, bounding_box.size());
   } else {
     double left = p.x, right  = style().width  - p.x - 1;
     double top  = p.y, bottom = style().height - p.y - 1;
     if (left < 0 || right < 0 || top < 0 || bottom < 0) return false;  // outside bounding box
     // check against border
     return left < style().left_width || right  < style().right_width   // inside horizontal border
-      || top  < style().top_width  || bottom < style().bottom_width; // inside vertical border
+        || top  < style().top_width  || bottom < style().bottom_width; // inside vertical border
   }
 }
diff --git a/src/render/value/information.cpp b/src/render/value/information.cpp
index 8e7be98c..ca4f3e03 100644
--- a/src/render/value/information.cpp
+++ b/src/render/value/information.cpp
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ void InfoValueViewer::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
     dc.SetFont(style().font, 1.0);
   }
   // draw background
-  RealRect rect = style().getInternalRect();
+  RealRect rect = dc.getInternalRect();
   dc.DrawRectangle(rect.grow(2));
   // draw text
   rect = rect.move(
diff --git a/src/render/value/multiple_choice.cpp b/src/render/value/multiple_choice.cpp
index 477a8212..0145e387 100644
--- a/src/render/value/multiple_choice.cpp
+++ b/src/render/value/multiple_choice.cpp
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ bool MultipleChoiceValueViewer::prepare(RotatedDC& dc) {
 void MultipleChoiceValueViewer::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
   drawFieldBorder(dc);
   if (style().render_style & RENDER_HIDDEN) return;
-  RealPoint pos = align_in_rect(style().alignment, RealSize(0,0), style().getInternalRect());
+  RealPoint pos = align_in_rect(style().alignment, RealSize(0,0), dc.getInternalRect());
   // selected choices
   vector<String> selected;
   value().get(selected);
diff --git a/src/render/value/symbol.cpp b/src/render/value/symbol.cpp
index 5e07ba2b..0e6440ae 100644
--- a/src/render/value/symbol.cpp
+++ b/src/render/value/symbol.cpp
@@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ IMPLEMENT_VALUE_VIEWER(Symbol);
 void SymbolValueViewer::draw(RotatedDC& dc) {
   drawFieldBorder(dc);
   // draw checker background
-  draw_checker(dc, style().getInternalRect());
+  draw_checker(dc, dc.getInternalRect());
   double wh = min(dc.getWidth(), dc.getHeight());
   // try to load symbol
   if (symbols.empty() && !value().filename.empty()) {
diff --git a/src/render/value/viewer.cpp b/src/render/value/viewer.cpp
index 5b4cd11f..e5d30ac8 100644
--- a/src/render/value/viewer.cpp
+++ b/src/render/value/viewer.cpp
@@ -14,6 +14,7 @@
 
 ValueViewer::ValueViewer(DataViewer& parent, const StyleP& style)
   : StyleListener(style), parent(parent)
+  , bounding_box(style->getExternalRect())
 {}
 
 Package& ValueViewer::getStylePackage() const { return parent.getStylePackage(); }
@@ -27,14 +28,21 @@ void ValueViewer::setValue(const ValueP& value) {
 }
 
 bool ValueViewer::containsPoint(const RealPoint& p) const {
-  return getMask().isOpaque(p, styleP->getSize());
+  return getMask().isOpaque(p, bounding_box.size());
 }
-RealRect ValueViewer::boundingBox() const {
-  return styleP->getExternalRect().grow(1);
+RealRect ValueViewer::boundingBoxBorder() const {
+  return bounding_box.grow(1);
+}
+bool ValueViewer::isVisible() const {
+  return getStyle()->visible
+    && bounding_box.width > 0
+    && bounding_box.height > 0
+    && fabs(bounding_box.x) < 100000
+    && fabs(bounding_box.y) < 100000;
 }
 
 Rotation ValueViewer::getRotation() const {
-  return Rotation(deg_to_rad(getStyle()->angle), getStyle()->getExternalRect(), 1.0, getStretch());
+  return Rotation(deg_to_rad(getStyle()->angle), bounding_box, 1.0, getStretch());
 }
 
 #if defined(__WXMSW__)
@@ -113,4 +121,6 @@ void ValueViewer::onStyleChange(int changes) {
   if (!(changes & CHANGE_ALREADY_PREPARED)) {
     parent.redraw(*this);
   }
+  // update bounding box
+  if (!nativeLook()) bounding_box = getStyle()->getExternalRect();
 }
diff --git a/src/render/value/viewer.hpp b/src/render/value/viewer.hpp
index a464d236..e29a864a 100644
--- a/src/render/value/viewer.hpp
+++ b/src/render/value/viewer.hpp
@@ -50,7 +50,9 @@ public:
   /// Does this field contian the given point?
   virtual bool containsPoint(const RealPoint& p) const;
   /// Get a bounding rectangle for this field (including any border it may have)
-  virtual RealRect boundingBox() const;
+  virtual RealRect boundingBoxBorder() const;
+  /// Is this field visible?
+  bool isVisible() const;
   
   /// Rotation to use for drawing this field
   virtual Rotation getRotation() const;
@@ -73,6 +75,7 @@ public:
 
 public:
   DataViewer& parent; ///< Our parent object
+  RealRect bounding_box; ///< The bounding box of this viewer. Corresponds to styleP->getExternalRect(), except for native look editor
 protected:
   ValueP valueP; ///< The value we are currently viewing
   
diff --git a/src/util/real_point.hpp b/src/util/real_point.hpp
index 21e93de8..2cbbaecf 100644
--- a/src/util/real_point.hpp
+++ b/src/util/real_point.hpp
@@ -159,7 +159,7 @@ public:
   inline RealPoint bottomRight() const { return RealPoint(x + width, y + height); }
   
   /// Return a rectangle that is amount larger to all sides
-  inline RealRect grow(double amount) {
+  inline RealRect grow(double amount) const {
     return RealRect(x - amount, y - amount, width + 2 * amount, height + 2 * amount);
   }
   /// Move the coordinates by some amount